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Atom must be completely excluded from our life, humanity does not need it, - Nagasaki survivor

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The III International Conference "Problems of Decommissioning Nuclear Energy Facilities and Environmental Restoration" INUDECO 18 is held these days on the anniversary of the disaster at Chornobyl Nuclear Power Plant in Slavutych.
More than 200 participants from Ukraine, Belarus, the USA, Poland, Germany, Russia discuss problems and prospects of the exploitation of nuclear power facilities. One of the participants of the conference is the Japanese Iharu Toyochi, a direct witness of radiation exposure in the city of Nagasaki. In an interview with 112.ua, Mr. Toyochi described how he managed to survive the atomic hell and why humanity should completely abandon the use of atomic energy
- Mr. Toyochi, you have felt the impact of atomic weapons on yourself. Tell us your story, what do you remember about that time[/img]


Naturally, at the age of 9, I did not understand what was happening, there was almost no information. We knew that an unusual bomb fell, but even adults did not particularly understand what was happening. It turned out that at first, it happened in Hiroshima, and then 3 days after Nagasaki suffered the same way. I was then far from the epicenter of the explosion, 6 kilometers away. There were forests and mountains there, which saved me in a way. But despite this, I saw many suns, a large-scale fire, heard the sounds of explosions ... and felt a hot wind.
 Trees started falling in the forest, and I was sitting on a 10m tree that had fallen down too. I passed out when I fell, but I did not get any major injuries. However, as the result of radiation, I got problems with my blood vessels and hematologic system. After the war, I was given a hibakusha document (hibakusha means “a person exposed to the blast effects”. This is the name used for the survivors of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings, - 112.ua), it has everything about my diseases.
 When discussing nuclear bombings, Hiroshima and Nagasaki are often named together, but different kinds of bombs were used in those cases. A uranium bomb was used on Hiroshima, while a plutonium one was dropped on Nagasaki. Despite the fact that only a part of the plutonium detonated (shows fist – 112.ua), like a small ball, it caused almost 75,000 deaths. This is why we, Nagasaki residents, do not believe it to have been an act of revenge or a necessity from the U.S. side – they were testing us, they examined how our bodies, lives, and our city would react to the bomb. Regardless of the fact that the United States still claim it was a necessary measure in order to end the war, Nagasaki and Japan as a whole do not share such opinion. Of course, we, the Japanese, do not deny the responsibility for what our country did in Asia, in China, in the 1930s. The Japanese do not forget the sense of guilt and responsibility.
Nuclear weapons were used during the war, but we see that even atoms for peace bring a lot of trouble, for example, the Tree-Mile-Island disaster in America, your Chernobyl or Fukushima. As we can see, it is not remotely “for peace”. The difference between nuclear weapon use and atoms for peace is unclear, as the outcome is the same.
It is impossible to achieve a situation, where nuclear weapons and humankind would co-exist. Not just humankind, but our nature as a whole – animals, birds, plants. The atom needs to be completely excluded from our lives. The biggest problem is that people are suffering and dying. This causes a great harm, as it is impossible to reverse that. Humankind does not need the atom in any form.
-To what extent can a nuclear disaster be unexpected, taking into account that we have not fully comprehended the atom? Was there a sense of a threat in Japan in 1945?
Naturally, it was unexpected for the civilians. But now, having analyzed all those events, it becomes clear. Because Germany, Japan, the Soviet Union and the United States were developing nuclear weapons. If weapons are being developed, they are going to be used at some point. But I can say this now after all those years have passed. The same could be said about Chornobyl: for the people who were working there, living there, it was a total surprise, but those who built and developed it should have been aware that a fire or an explosion might happen. 
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- Was there an understanding that this bombing could have a follow-up[/img]

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- Does the disaster ever appear in your dreams[/img]

Atom must be completely excluded from our life, humanity does not need it, - Nagasaki survivor

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- What should North Korea do about its nuclear tests?
The US and Russia need to reduce their nuclear arsenals. They are not conducting tests, but they retain the weapon that threatens the whole world. When it comes to North Korea, I have been there a number of times. North and South Korea should be a single country. It is unfortunate, and even embarrassing that Russia and America are standing behind them and preventing their unification. I consider atom in any form to be evil. Even Japan that does not produce any weapons and does not conduct any nuclear tests, but maintains so much plutonium, should give it up.
- How real, in your opinion, is the threat of a third world war with the use of nuclear weapons?
Of course, it would lead to the destruction of our planet, as there are so many weapons that it is hard to imagine. It is enough to destroy not just one planet, but several. We must do everything in order to make sure this does not happen.
- How can we, regular people, influence the situation? Does anything at all depend on our actions?
Of course, it does depend on what we do, and we can have an impact. People start with a war, and those are not my words, they have been said by many, even the Pope of Rome. We can only hope and expect the world to remain at peace. And to defend peace at all costs. Do you know what “Russian roulette” means? We cannot afford to live in fear, this is why I fight for our right to live without any nuclear threat or nuclear weapons.
At the common people level, we should not forget that we can all be friends and love each other. Today, I met so many beautiful couples, where the husband was Japanese and the wife was Ukrainian, and vice versa. That is truly wonderful. There is only one world, it is a little ball. There is no your country or my country/ This is all our planet.
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